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Archbishop Gustavo Garc\u00eda-Siller, MSpS, and\nAuxiliary Bishop Michael Boulette traveled to Rome in late January with bishops\nof Texas, Oklahoma, and Arkansas for their ad\nlimina apostolorum<\/em> pilgrimage to meet with Pope Francis as well as Vatican\noffices.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Following is a daily dairy of the pilgrimage January\n17 to 20 by Archbishop Gustavo and Bishop Boulette.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Arriving at North American College (NAC) on January\n19, we learned, gratefully, that we would only need to wear our house cassocks\n(filletata) to our meeting the Holy Father. We were free to simply wear our\nsuits to the rest of the meetings.  <\/p>\n\n\n\n

On January 20, we departed from \u201cFirmum Est,\u201d the\nfoyer of the NAC, for the Basilica of St. Peter, where we celebrated Mass at\nthe Altar of the Tomb with Cardinal Daniel DiNardo of the Archdiocese of\nGalveston-Houston presiding and preaching. He offered a stirring homily on the\nplace where we were, the significance of the Tomb of St. Peter and the Basilica\nbuilt over it. He preached to us of our vocation as bishop as it was celebrated\nin the day\u2019s readings. Following Mass we prayed the Creed as one, reminding\nourselves of our calling to proclaim the kerygma and the magisterium of the\nChurch. Then we prayed and venerated the bones of St. Peter while remembering\nour call of remain in union with the Holy Father.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

We were then transferred to the Apostolic Palace by\nbus and were ushered to the Cortile San Damaso for our audience with Holy\nFather Francis.  <\/p>\n\n\n\n

We walked through room after room of the Papal\nPalace, each one more ornate than the last. \nThere were \u201cspecial\u201d seats in many of the rooms that were like\npresidential chairs. We were lined up in a certain order, each ordinary was\naccompanied by his auxiliary, the priests who accompanied or with seminarians\nwho were studying in Rome. The Holy Father greeted each group and the bishop\nintroduced the people accompanying them, and photos were taken.  <\/p>\n\n\n\n

We were moved into chairs arranged in two lines,\nsomewhat curved, with the Holy Father at the head of the lines. The pope was\nassisted by an interpreter, who did a wonderful jog all through the visit.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Pope Francis welcomed us with a joyful visage,\npointed out where we could get water and use the restroom if needed, saying \u201cwe\nare all human after all.\u201d He invited us into a completely open and free\nconversation. He looked among us for a \u201cmoderator\u201d to keep some order, and\nfinally Cardinal DiNardo volunteered.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

The Holy Father became away that most of us knew\nSpanish, however, his translator did not know Spanish, so the Holy Father\ncontinued in Italian for the most part, which was then translated into\nEnglish.  <\/p>\n\n\n\n

There were 25 of us in attendance and during the two\nhours and 40 minutes that followed, some 22 of us asked questions that he\nanswered freely, some answers taking from 15 to 30 minutes.  <\/p>\n\n\n\n

We spoke of his leadership and the gratitude that we\nfeel for his pontificate. We discussed the abuse of minors by clergy and its\nhorrors. We spoke of the problems of certain aspects of the media that include:\nDisinformation, defamation, calumny and people loving bad news. He prefers not\nto dialogue with the \u201cdevil\u201d since Jesus did not.  <\/p>\n\n\n\n

The Holy Father on more than one occasion indicated\nthat he sympathizes with us, and is close to us.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

We then discussed the issues of migrants. He was\ngrateful for the work of each diocese and the work of the conference on this\nissue. We spoke of our gratitude for Evangelii\nGaudium<\/em>. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

He was then asked to speak more fully of his\nunderstanding of \u201csynodality\u201d as it describes the Church. There is still much\nto be studied to understand fully what it means for the Church to be\nSynodal.  <\/p>\n\n\n\n

When asked, \u201cWhere do you find hope?\u201d he answered. \u201cIn\nthe encounters between the young and the old people.\u201d He listed anecdotes to\nsupport his understanding.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

The Holy Father spoke of the goodness of regional\nseminaries, rather than a formation program for only a handful of students. He\ninvited us to ask women about our seminarian\u2019s readiness for ordination. He\nsaid we must listen to their insights.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

At one point the Holy Father himself poured a glass\nof water for his interpreter. It was such a simple human act!<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Bishop Mark Seitz spoke of the blow to El Paso with\nthe multiple shooting. The Holy Father was moved and sent for a bag full of\nrosaries to be given to the families. He did so when asked to send a blessing\nto the families.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Child trafficking and child pornography was\ncondemned, and the Holy Father had anecdotes to share.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

There was a discussion of the Blessed Stanley Rother\nand his life. The Holy Father was well acquainted with the story of this saint\nto be from Oklahoma.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

We celebrated the joy of Our Lady of Guadalupe and\nhe pointed out she was a woman, with child and a mestiza. Each make her a symbol\nof the New Evangelization. From this we spoke of the beauty of popular piety.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

We ended with a reflection on the role of the Holy\nSpirit in the discernment necessary to be the Church and to follow Christ\nfaithfully.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

The Holy Father then greeted each of us individually\nand gave each parting gift of 10 rosaries and a sacred plague.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Our next meeting was at the Pontifical Commission\nfor the Protection of Minors. Msgr. Robert Oliver represented the Commission.\nHe was well prepared for the task. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

Bishop Michael Olson of the Diocese of Fort Worth was\nthe lead presenter who summarized efforts and concerns.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

The Commission was delighted about what we have been\nable to accomplish in the United States in response to this grave crime and\nsin.  <\/p>\n\n\n\n

We spoke of the need for survivors to be heard, even\nby panels. The work of the commission is expanding to religious communities and\nlay associations.  <\/p>\n\n\n\n

The Holy Father has met with more survivors than\nanyone knows. We discussed the issues of who is precisely a vulnerable adult\nand who is disadvantaged. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

The issues are world-wide and the Church, especially\nin the United States, will lead the way to bring about the changes needed. There\nare so many different views around the world about these matters. The United\nStates is the only conference in the world which has received a \u201crecognition\u201d\nfor our Charter. What we are doing works.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Archbishop Gustavo was the lead presenter to this\nCongregation for Bishops. Cardinal Marc Ouellet was the lead officer\npresent.  We came to discuss more fully\nthe process of \u201cvos estis,\u201d the need for auxiliary bishops and the care and\nsupport of bishops under great stress.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Cardinal Ouellet then gave a quick rundown of material\nhe gleaned from our reports. He invited us to broaden our support of the Holy\nFather, respond to the glory of creation, and be open to a culture of\nencounter.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

He indicated that the Holy Father is very open to\nauxiliary bishops, however, many have not accepted the invitation. Solidarity\nis more important than ever. We are called to delicate and deliberate\ncorrection of each other. The metropolitan is called to be more pro-active in\nassisting suffragan bishops. He noted that there was a sabbatical program for\nbishops.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

We are called to assist people to live lives of\nholiness in this day and age. We are called to insist on more effective\npreaching from our priests. We should rediscover and re-evangelize what it\nmeans to be baptized. We are called to a Cristocentric encounter.  <\/p>\n\n\n\n

From this meeting we moved to the Congregation for\nthe Doctrine of the Faith. Cardinal Luis Ladaria was present for our meeting.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Bishop Steven Lopes of the Personal Ordinariate of\nthe Chair of St. Peter led our presentation to the Congregation. He indicated\nthat we work to bring the faith to the public square and are facing challenges\nfrom the secular society and government. We express our firm commitment to the\nteaching of the Church. We brought three areas to consider: 1) the death\npenalty; 2) Work in favor of migrants and refugees; and 3) matters of the graviora delicta<\/em> of the committed by the\nclergy.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

The cardinal spoke of the change to the Catechism <\/em>regarding the death penalty. It\nmust be accepted as the Magisterium of the Church. There can be no appeal to a\nformer reading of the Catechism<\/em>. This\nis a moral, not political, issue.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Msgr. Bob Gaisinger, SJ, spoke with clarity\nregarding the norms of the Charter and of the canonical processes to move someone\nout of the clerical state. The number of cases is making life difficult for the\ncongregation.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

We must be aware of the new wave of concerns regarding\n\u201ccover up\u201d by bishops. They are aware of the issues regarding \u201cvulnerable\nadults.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n

We discussed matters of Eschatology and the need to\ncatechize the Last Things: Heaven, Hell, Purgatory, and Judgment.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

At the Basilica of St. Paul Outside the Walls, Archbishop\nPaul Coakley of the Archdiocese of Oklahoma City led the Eucharist and preached\nof the life of St. Paul and the example that his leadership offered. We\nvenerated the relics of St. Paul and prayed together for the same grace for our\nleadership. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

On the second day we met with the Congregation of\nthe Clergy and Cardinal Beniamino Stella was present with members of his staff.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Bishop Brendan Cahill from the Diocese of Victoria\nwas our presenter. We sought some recourse in streamlining the process for special\nlaicization. We sought new possibilities for priests who cannot be assigned. We\nwished to discuss further the Ratio Fundamentalis and the formation of priests.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

As regards unassignable priests, the first choice is\nto ask them to request laicization. That is true for moral issues and for\nsimply being not dedicated or profoundly inadequate for service as priests.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

We spoke of the narcissism of the age.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

The reality is that much of these difficulties stem\nfrom formation in the seminary and lack of sufficient discernment in the\nseminary, to be very careful about whom one ordains to the priesthood. We need\nto work harder to form the formators.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

We discussed the issue of priests also being\nprofessional counselors. There are some issues, but clearly not forbidden. There\nmust be caution about the two roles being mixed.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Various groups of bishops then proceeded to two\nother Dicasteries that were meeting simultaneously.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

One group went to the Congregation for Divine\nWorship. Cardinal DiNardo was our presenter. Cardinal Robert Sarah and\nArchbishop Arthur Roche were the principal members of the congregation present.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

We asked about approval for the new Rite of Christian\nInitiation of Adults. They were in process and delighted that so many are\nseeking to join the Church. It is important to make sure that sound liturgical\nformation is occurring in the seminary. The bishop must stay focused on liturgy\nas the worship of God and not a performance. \n<\/p>\n\n\n\n

The Cardinal reminded us that the main problem is a\nlack of faith. Are we preparing people for a life of faith? We are not\nworshipping ourselves but the God of all creation. The unity of the faith is a\ngift from God.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

At the Congregation of the Causes of the Saints\nArchbishop Coakley was the presenter. The principal topic was the cause of\nBlessed Stanley Rother. Other issues of Holy men and women were discussed as\nwell.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Later, at the Dicastery for Promoting Integral Human\nDevelopment, Cardinal Michael Czerny was present.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Bishop Joe Vasquez of the Diocese of Austin was our\npresenter. We expressed our concern about the punitive policies of the present\nAmerican administration regarding refugees and migrants.  Many of our people do not accept the Church\u2019s\nteaching on this matter. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

They were very grateful for our work in this area. The\nfour key words of the Holy Father were reiterated: Welcome, Protect, Promote\nand Integrate. We are called to preach the seamlessness of life issues.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

The world around us in much worse shape. A young\nmigrate said: \u201cI cannot live without the rule of law.\u201d The section is producing\na booklet on internally displaced people. \n<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Bishop Michael Mulvey of the Diocese of Corpus\nChrist, an alumnus of NAC, was the presider and the preacher at a concelebrated\nEucharist with the seminary community there. He reminded us of the role of\nbishop and the gift of the vocation to the priesthood. He celebrated the gift\nof seminarians for the Church and the need for discernment of our vocation.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

The following day, at Mass at the Basilica of St.\nMary Major, Archbishop Gustavo was the presider and preacher. He proclaimed in\nEnglish and Spanish the great gift of Mary, Mother of the Church, to us all. At\nthe end of the Mass we sang the \u201cSalve, Regina\u201d in veneration of Mary, Mother\nof Jesus. We prayed at the relic of the manger of Jesus.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

After Mass we went to the Dicastery for Laity,\nFamily, and Life. Cardinal Kevin Ferrell, former bishop of the Diocese of\nDallas, was in attendance. Bishop David Konderla of the Diocese of Tulsa was\nour presenter. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

We spoke of the defense of marriage issues,\nincluding the horrific divorce rates in our dioceses. We spoke of a\n\u201ccatechumenate\u201d for those preparing for marriage. We are called to find more\nways and new ways to accompany people.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

We are called to let the laity use their talents and\ntheir duties that follow their baptism. We need to wrap ourselves around the\nlaity. We spoke of programs for the elderly and for the young. We spoke of the\nneed for local regions to set policies for marriages that are not in sacred\nvenues.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

We were told to support, with the usual cautions,\nlay ecclesial movements. The need for formation of the laity is exceedingly\nimportant. We were given contact information for each department or section.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

We then moved to our meeting with Vatican Secretary of\nState Cardinal Pietro Parolin.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

After introductions, our presenter, Cardinal\nDiNardo, asked about the situation of the Church in China.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Thereupon was launched a lengthy discussion about\nthe area. Archbishop Paul Gallo, an anthropologist, went into great detail\ndescribing the processes and the hopes of the Holy Father regarding China.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

We discussed Lebanon and many other areas of the\nworld.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

We spent some time speaking of the political\nrealities of our country. We are reminded that our call is to the Gospel and\nnot to a political party.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

One evening, some of the bishops went to a dinner\nand reception hosted by the Oblates of Mary Immaculate at their Generalate and\nothers went to a reception held at the Villa Stritch, a residence for American\npriests who are working at various Dicasteries in the Vatican.  Both events were truly blessings.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Our final day of meetings began with a visit to the\nCongregation for Consecrated Life. Cardinal Joao Braz de Aviz was present. They\nwere truly grateful to meet with us. There were many staff people present.  <\/p>\n\n\n\n

Bishop Mulvey was the presenter for our group.  <\/p>\n\n\n\n

Issues that immediately arose were the need to pay\ngreat attention to the formation of candidates to religious life; the need to\nunderstand the true meaning of authority and its use in religious life; the\nmany dimensions of male and female relationships in religious life are to be\nunderstood; and finally the issues of the economy of religious life, the care\nof goods and their management.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

We hoped for a renewal of religious life in our\ncountry while we are grateful for the many religious from other countries who\nserve us.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

It is important that we help small orders who are\nreaching the end of their lives to preserve and protects their assets, their\ngoods. We seek to help them manage these resources for the sake of the Church.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

It was suggested also that when religious come to be\nprofessionals, e.g., nursing and teaching, they need to be assisted by\nformation programs that will assist their development and integration into\nthese professions.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Several members of the group proceeded the final\nDicastery meeting at the Congregation for Catholic Education. Bishop Daniel\nFlores of the Diocese of Brownsville accepted the presenter role. The undersecretary\nof the congregation led the meeting.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

We spoke of the rapidly growing Church of our\nregion. There are six Catholic colleges and universities which are doing great\nservice to the Church.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

All of the dioceses have Catholic schools. The\ngeneral weakening of the faith makes is difficult to keep up the numbers\nnecessary to maintain a school properly; however, that is all the more reason\nfor us to seek their faithfulness and success. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

We spoke of issues regarding transgender ideology\nand we were appreciative of the contributions of the congregation on this\nmatter.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

We noted that the decline in vocation in service of\nCatholic education has made the costs prohibitive for many. We are called to\nremind the faithful of the value of a Catholic education and formation.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

The congregation is working on a document regarding\nthe role of the bishop and Catholic schools. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

Various pros and cons were mentioned. We need to\nask: 1) What is the identity of our Catholic institutions? We cannot take this\nfor granted; 2) Diverse groups need to be involved and play a part in the\nschool; 3) formation of all involved, especially teachers needs to be\nemphasized; and 4) we must read the signs of the times in the preaching of the\nGospel.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

In the afternoon we travelled to our last Mass\ntogether at the Basilica of St. John in the Lateran.  Bishop Michael Sis of the Diocese of San\nAngelo was the presider and homilist. He preached a rousing note on the role of\nthe bishop. He reminded us that we are part of the stream of history that will\nhave others following us. We are called to be faithful to our time in\nleadership.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

At the end of the Mass we prayed and the symbolic\nChair of the Bishop of Rome, since this is the pope\u2019s cathedral. With this we\nended our pilgrimage.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

On January 25, the archbishop went to stay for four\ndays with the sister community of the Missionaries of the Holy Spirit. He led a\nretreat for them as well.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Bishop Mike went on a journey to discover some of\nhis ancestral roots in the south of Italy, first the very poor area of Avellino\nfrom whence his grandmother emigrated in the early part of the 20th century,\nand then to the Amalfi coast with its winding roads and incredible vistas.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

Archbishop Gustavo Garc\u00eda-Siller, MSpS, and Auxiliary Bishop Michael Boulette traveled to Rome in late January with bishops of Texas, Oklahoma, and Arkansas for their ad limina apostolorum pilgrimage to meet with Pope Francis as well as Vatican offices. 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